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Now More Than Ever: The History of Chicago

We can meet in this thread to discuss the movie. I just think that a band with such a great history, so enduring over decades with so many hits and classic albums, deserves to have their history recognized and told honestly. I really think that's what we're going to get, and Peter Pardini has presented it in a very engaging style with interviews, vintage footage, and cinematic recreations with actors.

As RL fans, we all want to understand why his material was marginalized in the 80s. We'll hear his story, and a variety of other perspectives, and come to some closure.  

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  • I should mention that at the first M & G when I told them it was my birthday, he then told me it was his daughter's birthday.
  • Stephanie, the M&G are lots of fun. The first one I attended was nerve wracking because it was a surprise so I didn't know I'd be meeting the band until about 5 minutes before. It was the first thing I told them. They couldn't have been nicer or more natural. I just said to myself 'screw it I'm just going to go up and chat like they are old friends' and that's exactly how it felt. The next time I was prepared but in some ways that was more nerve wracking, it was just after the RRHF induction. I won't bore you with all the details but they treated me like a friend. Of course I spoke mostly to RL, JP and LL they all were just so warm, don't know how they do it except that they really appreciate their fans. Since the first M&G was for my birthday , I found out James daughter's birthday is the same day as mine. So we chatted about that. I subsequently found out that James and my Mom also share the same birthday and so we chatted about the coincidence of that during the second M&G the following year. The second M&G was my birthday as well, that night at the finale, he saw me standing with the crowd at the front of the stage, recognized me, shook my hand and wished me happy birthday. Amazing with everything going on and all those people he remembered.
    • That's sweet Kathi. :) 

  • I also noticed during the movie that Walt has hearing aids now. My dad needs them too. 

  • And Chicago XXXVI contains the best song Robert Lamm has recorded in over 30 plus years 'More Will Be Revealed' - a classic - maybe Foster was wrong!

  • I've now seem the film and really enjoyed it right up until I see David Foster then I really got annoyed. How did the band allow this MOR X factor clone influence the band. He took the name and made it his own, astonishing. Why did the original guys allow this? we can only imagine what Terry Kath would have said to this '16 Grammy Award Winner' ?

    I can see how the touring, drugs, drink, and pressures took their toll. It's all water under the bridge now, this film at least goes some way to explain the dilution of the band and in some ways explains some of the dreadful records releases under the 'Chicago brand'  -  was it David Foster 16 Grammies who told RL those songs aren't good enough?

    As I thought and Robert alludes to this If You Leave Me Now was the turning point - nobody in the band liked the song - it's a telling moment when Robert talks about this.

    It all ends happily with the Hall of Fame............BUT !

    • I think the film answers all these questions, and anyone who understands American history in general is aware of the mood of the country in the early 80s. Robert mentions this fact. Perhaps the Ronald Reagan campaign commercial, "it's morning again in America" sums it up. Of course, that commercial was a fairy tale claiming to bring back a more innocent time that never existed in the first place. (And it reminds me of the current mood in America right now among a certain demographic.)

      Compare that mood to Chicago of the early classic era, when they had a cult following on campuses and kids wanted to "tear the system down" like Jimmy says and points out that was something of a fallacy too. So, it is silly to expect that Chicago could be the same band in the 80s that they were in the 70s, unless you have machine capable of folding space and time. They went with Foster because they thought he could help them be successful again. There could have been ways to make those 80s albums better by making sure everyone got to contribute in terms of playing and songwriting, but in the end, he was the right producer for the times. The band admits that now.

      You can only interpret the 1980s by understanding the decisions they made in the conditions of the 1980s. Everything else is hindsight, and in the end, those were some good songs that could have been better with horns.       

    • Watch it, kid. Republican here. Leave politics out. ; )
    • Who was not at the shindig at Mar-a-Lago? ;) 

    • oh...yeah...lol
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